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Atrocities
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Joined: Aug 06, 2003
Location: PNW

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:40 am    Post subject: Way Off Topic - On The Fringe - ID for the Interent! Reply with quote

I am without word.

I really don't care all that much about politics any more but this one really is something new.

Obama wants intneter ID for all Americans... SAY WHAAAAAAAAAT?

[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20027837-501465.html] Link To Story[/url]

I cannot even begin to fathom the shier stupidity of this concept let along understand why they'd want such a thing other than for intimidation, taxation, or both. What next, we'll have to have hi speed Internet insurance, register our computers?

Please tell me that no one here thinks this is a good idea?




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STANFORD, Calif. - President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

It's "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said.

That news, first reported by CNET, effectively pushes the department to the forefront of the issue, beating out other potential candidates including the National Security Agency and the Department of Homeland Security. The move also is likely to please privacy and civil liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

The announcement came at an event today at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, where U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and Schmidt spoke.

The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace, which Locke said will be released by the president in the next few months. (An early version was publicly released last summer.)

"We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

The Commerce Department will be setting up a national program office to work on this project, Locke said.

Details about the "trusted identity" project are unusually scarce. Last year's announcement referenced a possible forthcoming smart card or digital certificate that would prove that online users are who they say they are. These digital IDs would be offered to consumers by online vendors for financial transactions.

Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.

Inter-agency rivalries to claim authority over cybersecurity have exited ever since many responsibilities were centralized in the Department of Homeland Security as part of its creation nine years ago. Three years ago, proposals were were circulating in Washington to transfer authority to the secretive NSA, which is part of the U.S. Defense Department.

In March 2009, Rod Beckstrom, director of Homeland Security's National Cybersecurity Center, resigned through a letter that gave a rare public glimpse into the competition for budgetary dollars and cybersecurity authority. Beckstrom said at the time that the NSA "effectively controls DHS cyber efforts through detailees, technology insertions," and has proposed moving some functions to the agency's Fort Meade, Md., headquarters.


Where we're going we won't need roads.


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Lorq13
Space Emperor


Joined: Oct 03, 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abhorrent.

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Shrike
Space Emperor


Joined: Jun 17, 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just the next step towards the perfect United States of Big Brother. Orwell and Huxley should have been compulsary reading in your schools and maybe then this wouldn't be happening. Gotta love the channel they use to communicate this. Economic Policy Research? Why don't they call it the Ministry of Truth?

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ekolis
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Joined: Aug 04, 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when can we start talking about the "rise of the Fourth Reich" or the "number of the Beast" or whatnot? Wink

That's no space station - it's a spreadsheet!


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marhawkman
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 24, 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ekolis wrote:
So when can we start talking about the "rise of the Fourth Reich" or the "number of the Beast" or whatnot? Wink
Um... 10 years ago? Or so... It's a rather unpopular subject, unless you're republican. Democrats have always loved big government.

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Colonial
Space Emperor


Joined: Dec 21, 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I very much doubt any democrat who uses the internet would like this one...

hopefully if this does go through they won't drag europe along with them. We can just chill over here with russia :S:S


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Skyburn
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 12, 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sources suspect Phong involvement. Wink

http://files.spaceempires.net/user/2047/Proof_of_phong.png


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HughManatee
Space Emperor


Joined: Jun 07, 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a giant bullseye for hackers and whatnot.

Also sounds like it was invented by and for old people.

It also kinda sounds like the adult IDs verify thing they put on porn sites, 1 pass for a bunch of T&A. Yet another sociological inovation brought to you by porn! http://www.cracked.com/article_18888_5-ways-porn-created-modern-world.html

that said, people seems to blow the whole 'socialistdemocrathomonazicommiepinko' alarm so often I just tune the 'teh brig broz is gonna taek teh freedumz' panic out at this point. Stuff like that belongs on AM radio.


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Hazcom13
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 17, 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's exactly what I am afraid of. This info will be the biggest target for hackers, and they get the info for ALL of your 'net activity instead of just one credit card...

If they want to make this optional(for old people, say) then I'd be fine with it.


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marhawkman
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 24, 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, really. AND there's the added annoyance that they wouldn't have to steal it from you. they could just guess it at random.

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Artful_Bodger
Space Emperor


Joined: Aug 23, 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm,

I am not from your part of this planet.

I do not wish to refer to all that may happen.

Difficult times, please refer to B5.

Sorry,

AfB


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